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On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman replays an interview with Roger Mayweather from February 28, 2012, about the place of his nephew, Floyd Mayweather Jr., in boxing history. This classic interview took place at the prefight press conference at the legendary Apollo Theater in Harlem, New York, for the Floyd Mayweather-Miguel Cotto light middleweight title fight, which was held May 5, 2012, in Las Vegas, and won by Mayweather by unanimous decision.

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On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman once again spoke with Dan Kanagie of the North American Catch Wrestling Association.

Our focus was the 2015 Virginia Shooter’s Challenge / Virginia King Of Catch Wrestling tournament.

This event takes place Saturday, April 25, at Amherst County High School, 139 Lancer Lane, Amherst, Virginia 24521.

We spoke with Dan Kanagie by phone Friday.

“Jake Shannon [of Scientific Wrestling] and I were talking about how things are going with the tournaments, and we’re expanding and there’s more interest in more places,” he said.

They agreed that it had become time for more tournaments to be held on “the regional and more of the state level.” Thus, the Virginia Shooter’s Challenge, now in its second year, would also be a Virginia King Of Catch Wrestling tournament. The Liberty Bell Classic, which mainly focuses on the Pennsylvania-New Jersey area, would continue as a King of Catch event, with possible new tournaments in New York, Washington, D.C., and elsewhere.

We also discussed the rules for this event, where matches can only be won by pin or submission, with all submissions legal including chokes; plans for an East Coast vs. West Coast championship; the growing evidence for the potential for catch wrestling to re-emerge as a popular and real style of professional wrestling; the continuing growth of catch wrestling in 2015; why the catch wrestling organizations must work together to help the sport itself; why the creation of a democratic governing body for catch wrestling is ‘inevitable”; why such an organization must listen to the wrestlers and not be bureaucratic like so many other sports organizations; and much more.

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No Holds Barred is free to listen to and is sponsored by:

American Top Team. Whether you’re a beginner or a champion, train with the champions in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, wrestling, grappling, and mixed martial arts at American Top Team. Check out their web site at AmericanTopTeam.com.

Defense Soap, an effective, deep penetrating body soap with natural antifungal, antiviral, and antibacterial soap ingredients. Defense Soap is the best cleansing body soap for men and women athletes who are involved in contact sports such as MMA, wrestling, grappling, jiu-jitsu, and judo, to help their antifungal, anti-ringworm, anti-jock itch strategy. Check out their web site, at DefenseSoap.com.

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On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman spoke with Britni de la Cretaz. She is involved with the movement to oppose Boston hosting the 2024 Olympics, and is a member of NoBoston2024.

NoBoston2024 describes itself as “a place for concerned citizens who are opposed to hosting the Olympics in Boston to express their views, share what they’ve learned, and find like-minded people. It is not an organization. No one can speak for NoBoston2024. Each person speaks for themselves.”

We spoke with Britni de la Cretaz by phone Wednesday.

The movement against Boston hosting the 2024 Olympics has been growing. This was evidenced by a March poll by radio station WBUR which showed that 52 percent of the people polled in the Boston area were opposed to it, while only 36 percent supported it. A similar poll taken just two months earlier in January had a 51-33 majority supporting the Boston Olympics. These numbers are even more stunning considering the fact that Boston is one of the sports capitals of the U.S., and is home to a large number of serious sports fans.

“I love that you’re making the distinction between sports fans and the Olympics, because that’s actually been a really important part of what’s going on in Boston,” said Britni de la Cretaz.

Many members of the official Olympic bid group, Boston 2024, “have tried to make those of who are opposed to the bid seem like we hate sports,” she said. In fact, the opposition to the 2024 Boston Olympics agrees with the bid organizers about the positive role sports can have, especially with young people.

“We wholeheartedly agree with that. I’m a huge sports fan myself, and I love watching the Olympics on TV. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that I want my city to host the Olympics,” she said.

She noted “the general reasons to oppose the Olympics that almost every city that has opposed them so far has, and they range from economic reasons to security reasons and safety reasons and all of these other things that we can talk more about.”

Boston, she added, has its own reasons as well.

“In Boston, in particular, there has also been this really anti-democratic way that the bid has been presented to us, that it’s almost been done behind the backs of the people that live here. And so a lot of the objections to the bid are coming from people who are feeling really betrayed and left out of the process of what’s happening to our city in general,” she said.

We discussed how the local politicians and the bid organizers have tried to conceal that public money will be used to fund a Boston Olympics; how the city is in crisis following a very bad winter which saw the public transportation system shut down and many closings of schools, homeless shelters, and other vital services; how the doubletalk from these politicians and bid organizers has only fueled opposition to the bid; the negative experiences of many cities which have already hosted the Olympics; how the U.S. Olympic Committee, which chose Boston as the U.S. bid city, has shown bad leadership; why the bid has little chance of succeeding; what people are doing and can do to oppose this bid; and much more.

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On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman once again spoke with our colleague, correspondent, and award-winning boxing writer, Charles Farrell, who is also co-editor of The Boxing Standard.

The Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) series made its debut on CBS in the U.S. on Saturday, April 4, headlined by a fight from Quebec City’s Pepsi Coliseum featuring WBC light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson (26-1, 21 KOs) winning a 12-round unanimous decision over Sakio Bika (32-7-3, 21 KOs). This followed PBC cards on March 7 on NBC and March 13 on Spike TV, with many more scheduled in the coming weeks and months.

To discuss these, as well as the May 2 mega-fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas and other upcoming bouts, we spoke with Charles Farrell by phone Sunday.

Regarding the progress of the PBC in its first month of televised cards, he said, “I certainly think that putting them on NBC, CBS, even Spike, opens up the door for a lot of potentially interesting things.” While there has been “some but not great success” in the quality and presentation of these cards, there are still numerous problems.

“The one thing that you can’t do is you can’t necessarily guarantee that you’re going to get great fights. And yesterday they had a problem,” referring to the Stevenson-Bika fight.

Part of it was “not very good matchmaking” pitting Stevenson against Bika, who has never been knocked out and is known as an awkward and sometimes dirty fighter.

“Adonis Stevenson underperformed in a way that they didn’t expect and probably was hard to predict, and he didn’t do what he needed to do,” he said.

Commentary, much of it ill-informed, is already filling up the sports media about the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. But already there has been some open speculation about one possible scenario in this fight: that the fight goes all 12 rounds, that the unbeaten Mayweather (47-0) deserves to win a clear-cut decision, and that he is robbed of it, thus ensuring an incredibly lucrative rematch.

With high stakes betting taking place on this fight and all the money involved, “The logic is to rob Mayweather,” he said. We discussed this scenario as well as several others for this bout.

In addition, we discussed many upcoming fights including this coming Saturday’s Garcia-Peterson and Quillin-Lee fights on NBC; why Stevenson must next fight the undefeated Sergey Kovalev; the corporate feel of the PBC cards; problems with the announcers on them; and much more.

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Defense Soap, an effective, deep penetrating body soap with natural antifungal, antiviral, and antibacterial soap ingredients. Defense Soap is the best cleansing body soap for men and women athletes who are involved in contact sports such as MMA, wrestling, grappling, jiu-jitsu, and judo, to help their antifungal, anti-ringworm, anti-jock itch strategy. Check out their web site, at DefenseSoap.com.

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On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman once again spoke with Wade Schalles.

Besides being a two-time NCAA wrestling champion, a master pinner, and a 1991 inductee in the National Wrestling Hall of Fame, Wade Schalles is also presently training people in catch wrestling by serving as coach of Scientific Wrestling.

A lot of his attention of late has been aimed at chronicling the many problems facing the sport of wrestling in his multi-part series called “How Wrestling Wins”, and offering solutions.

On the occasion of a major event such as the 2015 NCAA Division I Wrestling Championships, which just took place March 19-21 in St. Louis, Missouri, it is important to find out his take on what it reveals about the state of wrestling today.

We spoke with Wade Schalles by phone Wednesday.

Speaking about the 2015 NCAA Division I Wrestling Championships, he said, “It’s another wonderful event. It’s our flagship event. I could either take this interview and make it all positive, which people tend to do in wrestling. I think it’s smart to do the positive, talk about the greatness of the sport, and where we’re headed, and the things it does for children.”

He cautioned, however, “But I’m afraid we have very little time left to be positive.”

The wrestling community, he said, “has to awaken to the problems we have. We only have maybe two-three years at most before bad things are going to happen to a lot of the non-revenue sports, not only wrestling.”

Here he is referring to the effects of the O’Bannon decision, which mandates that colleges directly compensate many athletes in “revenue” sports like football and basketball, and where they will find the money to do so.

What must be done is, “Basically we have to get our costs in line. We have to increase our revenue potential. We have to spend wiser,” he said.

“Every major institution in wrestling loses money.”

We discussed why the current decision-makers in wrestling have not been making the “tough calls”; why the TV ratings for the 2015 NCAA Division I Wrestling Championships were not really impressive; how there is “no one in charge” of the sport of wrestling as a whole; why the college wrestling season should be moved to the spring so as not to conflict with the widely televised NCAA basketball tournament; why everything in wrestling must become “spectator-centric”; why he is planning on leaving wrestling; the potential for the re-emerging sport of catch wrestling to be “spectator-based” and exciting; and much, much more.

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The No Holds Barred theme song is called “The Heist”, which is also available on iTunes by composer Ian Snow.

No Holds Barred is free to listen to and is sponsored by:

American Top Team. Whether you’re a beginner or a champion, train with the champions in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, wrestling, grappling, and mixed martial arts at American Top Team. Check out their web site at AmericanTopTeam.com.

Defense Soap, an effective, deep penetrating body soap with natural antifungal, antiviral, and antibacterial soap ingredients. Defense Soap is the best cleansing body soap for men and women athletes who are involved in contact sports such as MMA, wrestling, grappling, jiu-jitsu, and judo, to help their antifungal, anti-ringworm, anti-jock itch strategy. Check out their web site, at DefenseSoap.com.

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On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman spoke with Kyven Gadson, who just won an NCAA Div. I wrestling championship at 197 pounds at the 2015 NCAA national tournament, representing the Iowa State Cyclones.

And he did it in grand fashion, pinning his opponent, Kyle Snyder of team champion Ohio State, in the second period of their final match.

After the match, ESPN, which was telecasting this event, interviewed Kyven Gadson, who, when asked how he felt, cracked that he wanted some ice cream, and then ended the interview. This interview went viral online, and was one of the most talked about stories at this year’s NCAA Div. I Wrestling Championships.

We spoke with Kyven Gadson by phone Wednesday.

Explaining why he called his pinning move in the finals ‘The Gadson’, he said, “The reason we call it ‘The Gadson’ is because that’s something Coach [Kevin] Jackson had taught me a while back, but I was really the only one on the team hitting it. So when I was hitting it in competition, we would say, ‘Gadson Airlines’ or ‘Cyclone Airlines’.”

He continued, “It’s actually called a ‘Polish Steparound Throw’, according to Daniel Cormier. But I told Daniel last night when I was talking to him, that I would never, I couldn’t call it the ‘Polish Steparound Throw’. It just doesn’t have that flavor to it. But I’d call it ‘The Cormier-Gadson’. I saw him hit it in his highlights versus Dan Henderson, if you watch that on YouTube,” referring to the Cormier-Henderson MMA fight.

“It was something that I had been practicing and had actually used it earlier in the tournament to get a fall in the second round, and had been using it a good amount of the season,” he said. He also explained how to do this move, which involves getting an overhook on one side, an underhook on the other side, and hooking the leg as you throw your opponent to the mat.

We also discussed his viral interview where he said he wanted some ice cream, and how he only found out afterwards, and unexpectedly, that it had gone viral.

In addition, we delved into his career as a wrestler at Iowa State, which has now concluded on such a high note. We discussed his “roller-coaster relationship” with his late father, Willie Gadson, an All-American wrestler at Iowa State and his high school coach, who passed away from cancer in 2013, and how that affected his life on and off the mat. We also discussed the need for more diversity in college wrestling, his plans to become an athletic director at a university and get a master’s degree and Ph.D., how he presently has no plans to continue wrestling, why he no longer uses social media, and much, much more.

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No Holds Barred is free to listen to and is sponsored by:

American Top Team. Whether you’re a beginner or a champion, train with the champions in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, wrestling, grappling, and mixed martial arts at American Top Team. Check out their web site at AmericanTopTeam.com.

Defense Soap, an effective, deep penetrating body soap with natural antifungal, antiviral, and antibacterial soap ingredients. Defense Soap is the best cleansing body soap for men and women athletes who are involved in contact sports such as MMA, wrestling, grappling, jiu-jitsu, and judo, to help their antifungal, anti-ringworm, anti-jock itch strategy. Check out their web site, at DefenseSoap.com.

Takedown Wrestling Media, America’s wrestling TV and radio shows, which are hosted by founder Scott Casber, and have been airing on radio and Internet for over 17 years. Takedown Media produces a weekly TV program seen in 54 million homes in the U.S. on DirecTV, Dish Network, and cable affiliates around the country, called Takedown TV. Takedown Media also produces the weekly USA Wrestling TV show for the governing body of the sport, USA Wrestling. For more information, go to TakedownRadio.com.

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On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman, who is celebrating his birthday on Sunday, March 22, offers some thoughts and observations on the state of sports in general and the combat sports in particular. Discussed are the growing concern with head trauma and concussions; why retirement is not an option for him; the many problems facing wrestling and grappling events; the need to understand the world as a whole in order to understand the sports world; and much more.

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American Top Team. Whether you’re a beginner or a champion, train with the champions in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, wrestling, grappling, and mixed martial arts at American Top Team. Check out their web site at AmericanTopTeam.com.

Defense Soap, an effective, deep penetrating body soap with natural antifungal, antiviral, and antibacterial soap ingredients. Defense Soap is the best cleansing body soap for men and women athletes who are involved in contact sports such as MMA, wrestling, grappling, jiu-jitsu, and judo, to help their antifungal, anti-ringworm, anti-jock itch strategy. Check out their web site, at DefenseSoap.com.

Takedown Wrestling Media, America’s wrestling TV and radio shows, which are hosted by founder Scott Casber, and have been airing on radio and Internet for over 17 years. Takedown Media produces a weekly TV program seen in 54 million homes in the U.S. on DirecTV, Dish Network, and cable affiliates around the country, called Takedown TV. Takedown Media also produces the weekly USA Wrestling TV show for the governing body of the sport, USA Wrestling. For more information, go to TakedownRadio.com.

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On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman spoke with Steve Koepfer, the owner and head coach of New York Combat Sambo.

Our main topic was a new and important event, the 2015 U.S. Combat Wrestling World Team Trials.

This event takes place Saturday, April 11, at the TK Martial Arts Academy, 223 East Monroe Avenue, Lowell, Arkansas 72745.

Combat wrestling, originally developed in Japan over 20 years ago by wrestling legend Noriaki Kiguchi, is being revived internationally. It is a style of submission wrestling which includes winning by submission or points, with points being awarded for attaining takedowns, superior positions, pins, and more.

The U.S. Combat Wrestling World Team Trials is a qualifying event for the first-ever Combat Wrestling World Championships held by the International Federation of Combat Wrestling (FICW), which will take place August 22, 2015, in Varna, Bulgaria.

A crowdfunding page to help support the U.S. combat wrestling team has been set up here.

We spoke with Steve Koepfer Monday at the headquarters of New York Combat Sambo.

“The end of last year, I was contacted by Ivaylo Ivanov,” the founder and president of the FICW, he said.

“He had been working with Kiguchi-san from Japan on really getting this world federation together for combat wrestling.”

As for the sport of combat wrestling, “It’s been around a long time. This is pre-Abu Dhabi submission wrestling sport. It kind of declined in Japan for a bit, like MMA and everything else, but I think the rise and popularity of no-jacket submission wrestling-type events has really brought it back.”

With plans being made for the first combat wrestling world championships in August, “Ivaylo had reached out to me to help through the American Sambo Association organize the first U.S. team trials and put the team together.”

We discussed the rules of combat wrestling, how the U.S. Combat Wrestling World Team Trials are being organized in a professional manner, the rapid growth around the world of combat wrestling and its international federation in just one year, some of the other important events coming up in sambo and catch wrestling, and much more.

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No Holds Barred is free to listen to and is sponsored by:

American Top Team. Whether you’re a beginner or a champion, train with the champions in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, wrestling, grappling, and mixed martial arts at American Top Team. Check out their web site at AmericanTopTeam.com.

Defense Soap, an effective, deep penetrating body soap with natural antifungal, antiviral, and antibacterial soap ingredients. Defense Soap is the best cleansing body soap for men and women athletes who are involved in contact sports such as MMA, wrestling, grappling, jiu-jitsu, and judo, to help their antifungal, anti-ringworm, anti-jock itch strategy. Check out their web site, at DefenseSoap.com.

Takedown Wrestling Media, America’s wrestling TV and radio shows, which are hosted by founder Scott Casber, and have been airing on radio and Internet for over 17 years. Takedown Media produces a weekly TV program seen in 54 million homes in the U.S. on DirecTV, Dish Network, and cable affiliates around the country, called Takedown TV. Takedown Media also produces the weekly USA Wrestling TV show for the governing body of the sport, USA Wrestling. For more information, go to TakedownRadio.com.

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On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman spoke with our long-time colleague and wrestling correspondent, Bob Mayeri.

In our discussion, we previewed the 2015 NCAA Div. I Wrestling Championships.

The 2015 NCAA Division I Wrestling Championships run from Thursday, March 19, through Saturday, March 21, in St. Louis’s Scottrade Center, and in the U.S., powerhouse telecaster ESPN is slated to show all the action. The finals Saturday night, along with the often epic semifinals Friday night, will both be shown live in prime time on ESPN. The other four sessions will be shown live on their college sports-oriented network, ESPNU.

In addition, all the action will be available live online on ESPN3, which will offer a multi-mat, simultaneous viewing format showing up to four different mats at one time. And both the TV and ESPN3 content will be available on their WatchESPN app.

Here is the TV schedule, with all times EDT:

2015 NCAA Division I Wrestling Championship Television Schedule

Date Time Session Network

Thursday, March 19
Noon – 3:30 p.m. 1st Round ESPNU & ESPN3
7 p.m. – 10:30 p.m. 2nd Round ESPNU & ESPN3

Friday, March 20
11 a.m. – 2 p.m. Quarterfinals ESPNU & ESPN3
8 p.m. – 11 p.m. Semifinals ESPN & ESPN3

Saturday, March 21
11 a.m. – 2 p.m. Medal Round ESPNU & ESPN3
8:00 p.m. – 11 p.m. Championship Finals ESPN & ESPN3

For more information on ESPN’s TV and online coverage, go here.

We spoke with Bob Mayeri by phone Tuesday.

“I think the team race seems to have piqued everybody’s curiosity, because when I look at it I see at least five teams that have a possibility of winning this whole thing, although three of them seem to have the main focus,” he said.

“Iowa, Ohio State, Missouri — those are the main three, with considerations got to be given to Minnesota and Cornell also in the team race.”

With team points being earned both in the regular tournament matches and the wrestlebacks, “It will have everybody waiting to see how it turns out,” he said.

We also discussed the favorites for winners in each of the ten weight classes, the quest by Ohio State’s Logan Stieber to win his fourth straight NCAA title, what team victories by upstart teams like Missouri or Ohio State would mean for college wrestling, and much more.

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American Top Team. Whether you’re a beginner or a champion, train with the champions in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, wrestling, grappling, and mixed martial arts at American Top Team. Check out their web site at AmericanTopTeam.com.

Defense Soap, an effective, deep penetrating body soap with natural antifungal, antiviral, and antibacterial soap ingredients. Defense Soap is the best cleansing body soap for men and women athletes who are involved in contact sports such as MMA, wrestling, grappling, jiu-jitsu, and judo, to help their antifungal, anti-ringworm, anti-jock itch strategy. Check out their web site, at DefenseSoap.com.

Takedown Wrestling Media, America’s wrestling TV and radio shows, which are hosted by founder Scott Casber, and have been airing on radio and Internet for over 17 years. Takedown Media produces a weekly TV program seen in 54 million homes in the U.S. on DirecTV, Dish Network, and cable affiliates around the country, called Takedown TV. Takedown Media also produces the weekly USA Wrestling TV show for the governing body of the sport, USA Wrestling. For more information, go to TakedownRadio.com.

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On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman once again spoke with wrestling historian and author Mike Chapman.

He has recently written a book on undefeated college wrestler, 1920 Olympic silver medalist wrestler, pro catch wrestler and shooter, and Hollywood actor Nat Pendleton.

We spoke with Mike Chapman by phone Saturday.

While wrestling for Columbia, which had the first college wrestling program in the U.S., “He was an exceptional college wrestler, never lost a match,” he said.

“This is before the days of the NCAA tournament, of course. He won the Eastern Intercollegiate Wresting Association title twice, which is a really tough tournament,” in 1914 and 1915, he said.

“He won the AAU Nationals twice,” in 1916 and 1920, he said, in what was then called amateur catch-as-catch-can wrestling, and today is known as freestyle wrestling.

Also in amateur catch-as-catch-can wrestling, in 1920, he said, “He won a silver medal in the Olympics.” Many observers of that match have argued that Pendleton was robbed of the gold medal, “which happens a lot in international competition.”

Pendleton’s next stop was pro wrestling, which had not completely devolved into the spectacle we have today.

This was “at a time when pro wrestling was starting to evolve from a pure athletic contest — well, actually it was already well into the evolution into show business and theatrics.”

As to how Nat Pendleton reacted to this change in pro wrestling, he said, “I maintain from my research through the last ten years, and what I’ve known about Nat, that Nat really felt that he was a catch wrestler extraordinaire. He loved catch wrestling. He cared deeply about it. And he resisted the movement into theatrics.”

Of course, to theatrics it was for pro wrestling, so after a few years, he decided to go where people were upfront about their theatrics — Hollywood, where he had a career appearing in almost 100 films.

We also discussed a legendary pro catch wrestling match which Nat Pendleton had in 1923 with the great John Pesek, which is one of the last real, or shoot, matches in pro wrestling. Held in Boston with heavy newspaper coverage, Pesek was able to defeat Pendleton by submission in two straight falls.

In addition, we discussed the legacy of Nat Pendleton for college wrestling and his alma mater, Columbia; the lessons of the devolution of catch wrestling last century into a staged spectacle; what the re-emerging catch wrestling movement of today has to learn about good governance of the sport and the battle against corruption from the tragedy of the real sport’s demise in the past; and much more.

Mike Chapman’s biography of Nat Pendleton is a must-read for all those interested in the history of college, Olympic, catch, and pro wrestling. It provides a rare insight into the life of a remarkable individual who went from the Ivy League halls of Columbia University to the wrestling mats and rings of his era, and then to an acting career during the golden age of Hollywood films. The book is also appropriate for teens and children, who will no doubt learn a lot about life and history in the 20th century.

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The No Holds Barred theme song is called “The Heist”, which is also available on iTunes by composer Ian Snow.

No Holds Barred is free to listen to and is sponsored by:

American Top Team. Whether you’re a beginner or a champion, train with the champions in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, wrestling, grappling, and mixed martial arts at American Top Team. Check out their web site at AmericanTopTeam.com.

Defense Soap, an effective, deep penetrating body soap with natural antifungal, antiviral, and antibacterial soap ingredients. Defense Soap is the best cleansing body soap for men and women athletes who are involved in contact sports such as MMA, wrestling, grappling, jiu-jitsu, and judo, to help their antifungal, anti-ringworm, anti-jock itch strategy. Check out their web site, at DefenseSoap.com.

Takedown Wrestling Media, America’s wrestling TV and radio shows, which are hosted by founder Scott Casber, and have been airing on radio and Internet for over 17 years. Takedown Media produces a weekly TV program seen in 54 million homes in the U.S. on DirecTV, Dish Network, and cable affiliates around the country, called Takedown TV. Takedown Media also produces the weekly USA Wrestling TV show for the governing body of the sport, USA Wrestling. For more information, go to TakedownRadio.com.

Thanks, Eddie Goldman
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